First, regarding 1+2 vs 7+8, you can't change the meanings (ports) connected to these numbers. For me, that means that when I fire up the mixer, I have to manually flip it back to 7+8 if I want to use headphones, then to 1+2 before saving a snapshot. A minor annoyance which I solved by plugging my phones into the phone jack on my speakers.

Regarding the MIDI/joystick port, the MIDI works great! I have heard some say that they lost the joystick portion of the port, others say it's fine. I don't own a joystick so I don't care either way.

Regarding latency, I am convinced the latency is much lower than with the crappy Creative drivers, even just for MME. I can run SimSynth and an old bad Cakewalk with 10-20 millisecond latency, which seems pretty good to me. I am about to install Cakewalk 9, which promises a faster audio and MIDI engine, so we'll see if I can do even better.

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[This message has been edited by Alectroboy (edited 01-10-2001).]

Hi Peter, you will get as clean noise floor as you did with the Live! drivers. You won't get any cleaner because you are still using a Live! card and changing drivers won't have that kind of effect.
Installing the APS drivers will give you ASIO support in Cubase which is handy cos you can get about 10 ms latency although the downside is that you have to work at 48khz!! If you don't want to work at 48KHz, the alternative of course would be the ASIO DirectX Full Duplex drivers which Steinberg incorporated in Cubase 5.0. If you wanna know how to get it working with Cubase 3.7 let me know!!!
APS drivers are certainly worth installing because you can do so much compared with the crappy Live! drivers. What gets me is this, Creative say that after purchasing your SBlive card your card won't be out of date, how long has Liveware 3 been out? Too long, why don't they bring out some new drivers! APS Live is what I call not having the card out of date, hell, the people behind the APS Live are updating it periodically! Creative are good at dishing out a value card with sampling support and their support team is very good, but for updates for the card, I am sorry to say is totally inadequate. Thank God we got the APS Live drivers working!!!
BTW guys if you are looking for some half decent-ish Soundfonts check my site out @ http://www.projectcyras.iwarp.com

I don't know which interface is fastest (ASIO, DirectSound, or MME) in the APSLive drivers, because the apps I have, use only MME. I'm just saying (without lots of science) that MME with APSLive seems to be better than MME with Liveware. Normally, your choice of driver type is determined by which app you're running; you can't just say, "I like ASIO so that's what I'll use today."

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thx everyone for the replies :-)


btw... akuma, your reply reminded me of what went wrong when i tried it the first time. as i said, a pretty long time ago.


it was a problem with cubase 5.0... after 'upgrading' to aps cubase, which had been running fine 'till then, started stuttering madly. maybe a 41/48 khz problem? anyway, even after re-installing live!, cubase kept stuttering - regardless of what latency i set. i just don't run cubase on that machine any more.


anyhow... time to try again.


thx again.

[This message has been edited by PeterPiper (edited 01-11-2001).]

good golly miss molly. it works.


i've only got output 7-8 working... but that could be a problem with my card... no big deal, i only need one output...


now if only i can persuade the mixer to load up 7-8 by default. minor annoyance.


thx to all who helped.

[This message has been edited by PeterPiper (edited 01-11-2001).]

Hi Peter. I am glad that you have it working, just want to say you use a SBLive value, is it the SBLive!1024? Analogue 1+2 should work, it works on mine anyway, it should work on yours. You know you were saying about how Cubase kept stuttering, maybe you did not setup the ASIO Multimedia Setup? Or were you using the DirectX full duplex drivers? Oh well, as long as it is working for you thats fine!

hi Akuma,

i think one of my line outs on the live! is damaged. it stopped working a month or 2 ago. so... technically, APS analog 1/2 probably *is* working .

wrt cubase.. don't know. i'm about to re-install it on this machine and try again. just to find out... this is my midi machine, i have another one for audio (line out to a maxi studio isis), so i don't absolutely have to have cubase on this one. the non stand-alone vstinstruments would be nice. truckloads of them puppies.

curious: is there a way to use 2.1 format soundfonts straight from APS soundfont manager?

With APS installed, you can create or load 2.1 SoundFonts with no special procedures.

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Peter have you installed Cubase and does it work? Let me know, and if not I might be of use. Cheers